17 January 2007 @ 06:34 am
An elaboration to my complaint.  
Someone completely misinterpreted what I had written on the group's post (my opinion on the position of the British in the American War for Independence) and lambasted me for it (actually Lucianus, because this was the group's journal, and it was directed towards everyone on his list, not simply those who know of our plural group). Now Lucianus feels guilty for what I have written, and has issued an apology to those who are aware of my existence. I do not apologise, however, for my opinion. I apologise if I have caused suffering, but I do not apologise for what I think. And no, I do not advocate for colonialism or slavery, which are both incredibly disgusting human acts.* I am a bloody utilitarian, and would never advocate such horrific nonsense as slavery or colonialism, and there was no romanticising of Britain! People, I dare say, are ridiculous. These days I wonder if I should keep my publicly expressed opinions to science, or air them in a group that is far less interested in woolly, relativistic ways of thinking.

*and not in the same way two men having sexual relations is; as much as I am disgusted by male homosexuality, I recognise gay men's right to practise whatever they wish. It is no-one's business but their own. No suffering is caused by it, and it is pleasurable to them.

edit: I repaired my spelling of 'disgusted'. I think I am still unused to this keyboard.


Yours sincerely

A very frustrated

Richard
 
 
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[identity profile] cabotinage.livejournal.com on January 17th, 2007 02:39 pm (UTC)
Richard, dear, I read what you were talking about, and you musn't mind them. I don't think that they were being woolly-minded, per se, but their thinking is different to yours, and I think it could be related to your discipline. In the humanities, it is far easier for someone to use words deceptively for an unfair advantage, and I am sure that they might have misinterpreted what you were saying because of it, and started reading things into your writing because their discipline INVOLVES reading into people's actions. Perhaps I should go in there, if they know you wrote it, and say that you didn't mean it that way? I'm sure they'd listen to me, as I'm your wife...
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[identity profile] hessgasm.livejournal.com on January 17th, 2007 02:43 pm (UTC)
richard...admit it...you fucked up
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[identity profile] cabotinage.livejournal.com on January 17th, 2007 02:45 pm (UTC)
mustn't, not musn't. I'm tired. And Perpetua demands my attention.
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[identity profile] foreverwish.livejournal.com on January 17th, 2007 02:47 pm (UTC)
They made me upset as well. :( I felt uncomfortable reading all that.
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[identity profile] memepr0gramme.livejournal.com on January 17th, 2007 02:55 pm (UTC)
And I had to deal with the fallout and cover for you after receiving two lengthy (rebuttals.

One tip: If you're going to post something, especially if it's the humanities, that's controversial like Richard's post was, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE post it either in [livejournal.com profile] fensystem as a personal post, or on your own journals. (I'm making this a discussion topc there.) Don't post it it in [livejournal.com profile] memepr0gramme. The science consciousness raising ones are fine for the most part. And Richard, I know you haven't been able to express yourself in your own journal that long, but you have that opportunity now. [livejournal.com profile] memepr0gramme should be for my own personal entries that pertain to me only, OR system-level opinions, not individual-level opinions that aren't shared by a majority of the system.

This is different from the DAWKINS DAWKINS DAWKINS business that was going on last week. I don't think Hess's approach to the whole thing was appropriate, but he did not use the group's journal to do it, or leave omments using this user name. We need to seriously talk about this kind of stuff now that we're more open as a system. Enough rambling...I'm taking this to [livejournal.com profile] fensystem.
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[identity profile] memepr0gramme.livejournal.com on January 17th, 2007 02:56 pm (UTC)
comments, not omments, sorry.
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[identity profile] calonllew.livejournal.com on January 20th, 2007 07:05 am (UTC)
Now I really wish I had read the offending post before it was deleted. I hear the aftermath and I don't know what it's about.
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[identity profile] memepr0gramme.livejournal.com on January 20th, 2007 07:11 am (UTC)
We'll email you the post; I have it archived.
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[identity profile] memepr0gramme.livejournal.com on January 20th, 2007 07:11 am (UTC)
on second thought, Richard will repost it in his own journal.
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